-- elected. host: what are your thoughts on that? guest: one of the real stories of 2013 will be the disarray. speaker boehner had a. quorte das speaker boehner had a great -- speaker boehner had a great quote -- "i need this job like i need a hole in the head." they will try to move forward. it will be very incremental. a lot of conservatives might be disappointed. host: what is the likelihood the republican party is going to explode in the next couple of months, the debt ceiling and all -- to implode in the next couple of months, that ceiling and all? guest: i think the party will survive. the president has said he will not negotiate. it will put republicans and a very tough position. -- in a very tough position. they will have to craft a real strategy, perhaps better strategy than they had on the fiscal cliff deal. host: independent caller. caller: boehner -- we are not seeing a republican president for another 11 years, 12 years. obama will finish out his term, then hillary clinton will take